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    The Suchtings

    Ahrensbök
    As a single man, our twice great-grandfather Friedrich Süchting (earlier spelt Züchting, later Suchting), migrated to Australia. This was in 1864 from a place in the far north of Germany called Ahrensböck (now Ahrensbök) in Holstein. After much upheaval in the form of warring and political strife across lands being tossed back and forth between Danes and Saxons, Holstein and the neigbouring Schleswig, eventually ended up being incorporated into a newly formed German state called Schleswig-Holstein.

    Old Postcards of Ahrensböck

    Some Historical Background
    Holstein lies geographically at the lower end of the Jutland Peninsula and has a very colorful background. In 1111 Holstein became the most northern state of the Holy Roman Empire. It was originally the homeland of an ancient Saxon tribe of Germanics called the Holsten.

    Holstein on the Jutland Peninsula

    They were known as worshippers of rivers, forests, mother earth, and the Irminsul, the divine tree which acted as a great pillar connecting heaven and earth. The name Holsten, previously Holsaten, is a contraction of Holtsassen, literally meaning "forest dwellers".

    The tribe itself was made up of noble aristocrats, highly regarded free warriors, and a bunch of free men. Their ancient and preserved customs strictly controlled social behaviour and were intolerant towards marriage to someone of a differing social standing and especially to an outsider, even if from another of the Germanic tribes.

    from The Count of the Saxon Shore on gutenberg.net.au/ebooks13/1306301h.html

    Depiction of the Saxon Pirates

    Holstein in the Grip of the Sea
    Peace was not a Saxon thing and as land became scarce, they headed off in all directions to occupy someone else's, with force, and lots of it. Naturally enough, they invaded southwards into the northern part of Germany, an area still known as Saxony (Sachsen).

    With their own lands surrounded by sea they readily took to the water, becoming known as the pirates of both the western seaboard of the continent and the eastern seaboard of Britain. The regional names of Essex (East Saxons), Wessex (West Saxons) and Sussex (South Saxons) are remnants of the kingdoms they lorded over.

    In their homeland in the Holstein area they also made their presence felt, and naturally enough this generated enemies from all sides, especially with the Danes to the north and other Germanic tribes to the south. Eventually the Saxons were defeated by the Germanic tribes known as the Franks. That wasn't the end of it though, and warring continued but this time it was coming from the outside.

    Holstein after the Frankish Takeover and Christianisation of the Saxon Tribes (12th century)

    The turquoise area shows new German settlement.
    The brown area, inhabited by Slavs, included Wagria.
    The white area remained basically uninhabited.

    Wagria, The Promised Land
    The actual region where the Süchtings and their families were living lay in the southern part of what was known as Wagria, in the far north of Germany and known today as Ostholstein (East Holstein). The word Wagria is derived from the Wagri, a Slavic tribe, literally meaning "the people living by the bays". When the Franks overran the Saxons, Holstein had three distinct areas, with Ditmarsh to the north-west, Holsten to the north-east and Storman, which included Hamburg, to the south. In the 12th century, Count Adolf II of Schauenburg and Holstein instigated German settlement of the area, including Wagria which had already been inhabited by Slavic migrants since the 8th century.

    The chronicler, Helmold of Bosau, wrote in 1143:
    "Then a countless number of people from different tribes left, took their families and possessions with them and went with Count Adolf in Wagria to take possession of their promised land. Initially, those from Holsten were given the most sheltered area west of Segeberg, on the River Trave, on the Schwentine flood plain and everything from the Schwale to the Grimmelsberg and Lake Ploen. The country around Dargun was settled by the Westphalians, the Eutin area by the Dutch and Suesel by the Frisians. The Plön area remained uninhabited however. He allowed Oldenburg, Lütjenburg and other coastal areas be colonised by the Slavs, who had to pay taxes to him."

    Holstein around 1730, with southern Wagria shown in yellow.
    The black outline on the inset shows where the larger map is found within the Jutland Peninsula and Holstein itself.
    The red rectangles show the places where Friedrich's ancestors were located:-
    top row: Gnissau (Gnissow), Ahrensbök (Ahrensbocke), Sarkwitz, Gleschendorf
    middle row: Cashagen (Kushagen), Curau (Kurow)
    bottom row: Heilshoop (Heilshope)

    Some Historical Foreground
    Following the dissolution of the Holy Roman Empire in 1806, and a national bankruptcy of Denmark in 1813, the German Confederation was finally formed in 1815. This added tension to the ongoing struggle between Prussia and Austria over regional supremacy and brewed plenty of political strife in the area of Holstein.

    Yet that wasn't enough to keep the powerful busy. In the aftermath of the Napoleonic Wars with increasing unrest in the original states of the Holy Roman Empire, there was an impetus towards nationalism and the formation of a German Empire which would come into being in 1871.

    Of course, before that could happen there needed to be a lot more warring. Denmark already had its paws on Schleswig and wanted Holstein to have a matching pair, but so did Prussia. From 1815 until 1864, the year Friedrich migrated, Holstein was a member of the German Confederation. King Frederick VII of Denmark died in 1863 and his replacement, Christian IX had made his claim to the throne through a female line. From another line, the Duke of Augustenborg laid claim to the Duchies of Schleswig and Holstein.

    An old postcard of Ahrensböck



    Even though Prussia and Austria had their differences, they managed to join forces and lead the German Confederation to push the Danes back out of Schleswig and defeat that claim. In fact under the rule of Otto von Bismarck who had been appointed Chancellor by King Wilhelm I, Prussia went on to take over the whole of Denmark.

    This was not without human trial and tribulation and gave much grief to the local inhabitants. The political and administrative changes to the place contributed greatly to an already surging flood of migration out of the place.

    Many ended up migrating to America and Australia.




    The Ancestors of Frederick Suchting (Johann Hinrich Friedrich Süchting)

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    The old church in Gnissau where Friedrich Süchting's father Hinrich Thomas, and grandfather Johann Hinrich Christopher were baptised.

    Vorwerk Neuhof where Friedrich's grandmother, Engel Margaretha Speetzen, was born. Her father, Hans Hinrich Speetzen was born in Wahlsdorfer Holz but moved to the Vorwerk Neuhof with his wife, Anna Beckmann, before the birth of their daughter.

    A postcard of Curau showing the church where Friedrich's great-grandfather on his mother's side, Cuno Marquard Groth, was the Sacristan (Küster), the official keeper of the church.


    A postcard of Cashagen, the birthplace of Friedrich's mother, Margaretha Maria Meinsen.

    Heilshoop where Friedrichs's great-grandmother, Anna Beckmann and her mother, Anna Margaretha Bartels were both born.

    Gleschendorf, the birthplace of Friedrich's 3x great-grandmother, Catharina Jitbargen.


    Johann Hinrich Christopher Süchting (1772-1845)
    and Engel Margaretha Speetzen (1775–1817)


    » Johann Hinrich Christopher Süchting (25.02.1772 – 05.11.1845)
       married Engel Margaretha Speetzen (10.04.1775 – 28.08.1817)
       in Ahrensböck, 08.10.1799
       and they had the following children:

    Johann Hinrich Süchting 18.08.1798 –
    *Gnissau 
    18.03.1872
    †Gnissau
    m. Anna Catharina Joost in Oldenburg, 31.07.1829
    Engel Christina Süchting 27.10.1799 –
    *Hohenhorst 
    unknown
    †unknown
    status unknown
    Hinrich Thomas Süchting 02.03.1803 –
    *Gnissau 
    25.10.1838
    †Gnissau
    m. Margaretha Maria Meinsen, ??.07.1836
    (Margaretha remarried in 1856, to Friedrich Carl Lohmann)
    Catharina Elsabe Süchting 03.06.1805 –
    *Gnissau 
    13.11.1810
    †Gnissau
    (5 years old)
    Maria Dorothea Süchting 23.12.1807 –
    *Gnissau 
    30.10.1810
    †Gnissau
    (almost 3 years old)
    Friederica Elisabeth Süchting 28.10.1809 –
    *Gnissau 
    05.11.1836
    †unknown
    m. Hinrich Christian Kiekbusch in Oldenburg, 31.10.1828
    Maria Dorothea Süchting 04.10.1811 –
    *Gnissau 
    unknown
    †unknown
    m1. Anton Matthias Schröder in Gnissau, 23.11.1834
    m2. Georg David Hansen in Gnissau, 22.11.1844
    Elsabe Margaretha Henriette Süchting 08.10.1814 –
    *Hohenhorst, Ahrensbök 
    07.01.1889
    †Vorwerk Neuhof, Ahrensböck
    m. Jochim Friedrich Klüss in Ahrensbök, 08.05.1838
    Friederich Hinrich Süchting 27.02.1817 –
    *Gnissau 
    28.03.1892
    †unknown
    m. Georgina Catharina Friederike Schröder in Oldenburg, 05.05.1839

    Birth Records for the Children

    1798 Birth of Johann Hinrich Süchting

    1805 Birth of Catharina Elsabe Süchting

    1811 Birth of Maria Dorothea Süchting

    1799 Birth of Engel Christina Süchting

    1807 Birth of Maria Dorothea Süchting

    1814 Birth of Elsabe Margaretha Henriette Süchting

    1803 Birth of Hinrich Thomas Süchting

    1809 Birth of Friederica Elisabeth Süchting

    1817 Birth of Friederich Hinrich Süchting

    Marriage Records for the Children

    1828 Marriage of Friederica Elisabeth Süchting and Hinrich Christian Kiekbusch

    1838 Marriage of Elsabe Margaretha Henriette Süchting and Jochim Friedrich Klüss

    1829 Marriage of Johann Hinrich Süchting and Anna Catharina Joost

    1839 Marriage of Friederich Hinrich Süchting and Georgina Catharina Friederike Schröder

    1834 Marriage of Maria Dorothea Süchting and Anton Matthias Schröder

    1844 Marriage of Maria Dorothea Süchting and Georg David Hansen

    Records for the Parents

    1799 Oct 8 - Marriage of Johann Hinrich Christopher Süchting and Engel Margaretha Speetzen in Ahrensböck

    1817 Aug 28 - Death of Engel Margaretha Süchting (nee Speetzen) in Gnissau, only a few months after the birth of her last child, Friedrich Hinrich

    1845 Nov 5 - Death of Johann Hinrich Christopher Süchting in Gnissau


    1803 Census for Holstein


    In 1803, Friedrich's grandparents, Johann and Engel, were living in the Hohenhorst Vorwerk near Ahrensbök along with the first two of nine their children and three other workers or relatives.

    Johann Hinrich Kristoph is listed as a 'Parzelist', a tenant-holder of a parcel of land which was divided up from the original Vorwerk.

    Details of record for 1803 Census

    1803 Census for Holstein


    In 1803, Friedrich's great-grandmother, Anna, was also living in the Hohenhorst Vorwerk near Ahrensbök along with her daughter, Maria, and son-in-law, Hinrich Kristian Dittmann, and their three children, Johann, Engel and Hinrich.

    Anna Justina Süchting nee Drükhammer, 52, widow, was enjoying a life of retirement.

    Details of record for 1803 Census


    Johann Hinrich Süchting (1798-1872) and Anna Catharina Joost (1810–1884)


    » Johann Hinrich Süchting (18.08.1798 – 18.03.1872)
       married Anna Catharina Joost (14.12.1810 – 29.04.1884)
       in Oldenburg, Germany, 31.07.1829
       and they had the following children:

    Heinrich Wilhelm Süchting 22.09.1830 –
    *unknown 
    09.10.1830
    †unknown
    status unknown
    Friederich Wilhelm Süchting 09.11.1831 –
    *unknown 
    08.12.1831
    †unknown
    status unknown
    Anna Dorothea Sophia Süchting 16.03.1833 –
    *unknown 
    22.03.1834
    †unknown
    status unknown
    Johannes Hinrich Süchting 26.12.1834 –
    *Hohenhorst, Gnissau 
    22.09.1904
    †unknown
    m. Regine Morwine Rosalie Maack in Ahrensbök, 28.04.1868
    Anna Catharina Elisabeth Süchting 03.02.1836 –
    *unknown 
    13.03.1837
    †unknown
    status unknown
    Anna Maria Elise Süchting 01.04.1837 –
    *unknown 
    02.04.1838
    †unknown
    status unknown
    August Julius Süchting 19.05.1839 –
    *Gnissau 
    24.09.1892
    †unknown
    m. Therese Rosaline Blandine Maack in Ahrensbök, 12.04.1872
    Carl Ferdinand Nicolaus Süchting 09.09.1841 –
    *unknown 
    31.03.1843
    †unknown
    status unknown
    Detlev Wilhelm Süchting 10.03.1844 –
    *unknown 
    unknown
    †unknown
    m. Anna Maria Catharina Höppner
    daughter Süchting 14.01.1847 –
    *Oldenburg, Germany 
    unknown
    †unknown
    status unknown
    Emma Friederike Süchting 10.03.1848 –
    *Hohenhorst 
    29.09.1908
    †Segeberg
    m1. Thomas Hinrich Jacobsen in Gnissau, 10.11.1868
    m2. Heinrich Friedrich Wilhelm Maack in Ahrensböck, 28.03.1878
    Ferdinand Rudolph Süchting 22.09.1852 –
    *unknown 
    13.03.1909
    †unknown
    status unknown

    Hinrich Thomas Süchting (1803-1838) and Margaretha Maria Meinsen (1812–1877)


    » Hinrich Thomas Süchting (02.03.1803 – 25.10.1838)
       married Margaretha Maria Meinsen (24.03.1812 – 02.01.1877)
       and they had the following children:

    Hinrich Friedrich Süchting 25.04.1834 –
    *Curau 
    unknown
    †unknown
    status unknown
    Friederike Elisabeth Christina Süchting 28.01.1836 –
    *Oldenburg 
    22.04.1836
    †unknown
    status unknown
    Johann Hinrich Friedrich Süchting
    (Friedrich)
    10.03.1838 –
    *Ahrensbök 
    27.06.1917
    †QLD AUS
    m. Wilhelmine Riek in Ipswich, 27.05.1870


    1803 Birth/Baptism of Friedrich's father,
    Hinrich Thomas Süchting in Gnissau
    born: March 2, baptised: March 6
    Father: Johann Hinrich Süchting
    Mother: Engel nee Speetzen
    Witnesses: 1. Hinrich Christian Dittmann, 2. Thomas Jacobs, 3. Christina Marie Kalm in Gnissau


    1838 Death of Hinrich Thomas Süchting in Gnissau

    1812 Birth/Baptism of Friedrich's mother,
    Margaretha Maria Meinsen in Cashagen
    born: March 24, baptised: April 5
    Father: Claus Detlev Friedrich Meinsen
    Mother: Catherina Margaretha nee Groth
    Witnesses: 1. Catharina Margaretha Schwarz, 2. Maria Klein, 3. Thomas Kibbel in Cashagen


    historicalaustraliantowns.blogspot.com/2018/09/ipswich.html

    Ipswich about 1862 (by William Francis Emery)

    The Start of a New Dynasty
    Friedrich Suchting and Wilhelmina Riek
    One of those who migrated from Holstein was our great-great-grandfather, Friedrich Suchting, who headed for Australia, namely to the newly created colony of Queensland. He left Hamburg on the 'Beausite' in October 1864 and arrived at Moreton Bay in February the next year.

    Only a few months later, his future wife, Wilhelmine Riek left her home in Gerswalde in Brandenburg to board the 'Helene' in Hamburg in August 1865. The pair of them were married on the 27th May 1870 in the small wooden Baptist Chapel in West Street Ipswich by the Baptist minister, Rev T. S. Gerrard. At the time they were both members of the Baptist Church, but that would soon change.

    Friedrich, whose full name was Johann Hinrich Friedrich Süchting, was born on the 10th of March 1838 to Hinrich Thomas Süchting and Margaretha Maria Meinsen (or Meynsen). He was 25 years old on his wedding day.

    Wilhelmine's full name was Johanne Wilhelmine Emilie Riek. She was 18 when she married Friedrich, having been born on the 15th of February 1852 to Christian Friedrich Riek and Dorothea Louise Spann and baptised on March 7 in Gerswalde in the Uckermark, Pommerania. Strangely the record of her death says she was born on the 14th.

    1838 Baptism of Johann Hinrich Friedrich Suchting
    Born 10 March, Baptised 1 April, at Hohenhorst Wildkoppel (Vorwerk Ahrensbök) Johann Hinrich Friedrich, son to Hinrich Thomas Süchting of the Hohenforst Wildkoppel and his wife Margaretha Maria nee Meinsen (or Meynssen)


    1864 Friedrich Süchting's departure from Hamburg
    Place of birth - Ahrensbök, Holstein
    Farmer (Landmann) Age 26

    1852 Baptism of Johanne Wilhelmine Emilie Riek
    At Gerswalde, Born 15th February, Baptised 7th March,
    Full name: Johanne Wilhelmine Emilie
    Father: Workman Friedrich Riek, Mother: Dorothea nee Spann
    Godparents: Master-Dyer Güldenstein and Miss Wilhelmine Eik


    1865 Wilhelmine Riek's departure from Hamburg
    Aged 13, with her parents, Friedrich, aged 39, and Dorothea, aged 41
    as well as her 11 year old younger brother, Wiilhelm
    All from Potzlow, Prussia
    Friedrich is listed as a workman (Arbeitsmann)


    c.1888 Friedrich Suchting and Wilhelmina Riek with their younger children, Alvina (4), Martha (6) and Alfred (2).

    On the back of the photo is a text written by Alma (Pieper) Schneider, grand-daughter of Friedrich and Wilhelmine:

    Grandmother Wilhelmine Suchting and Grandfather Friedrich Suchting. Aunt Martha. Aunt Alvina who died at the age of 9 years, buried Vernor Baptist cemetery. Grandmother Suchting also is buried there. Grandfather buried in Murgon cemetery.

    There was a lengthy obituary in the Queensland Times when Wilhelmine died on the 7th of July, 1906, aged 54. Friedrich died on the 27th of June, 1917, aged 87.

    Life in Vernor, near Fernvale
    Around the time that the Church of Christ was formed in Queensland, the Suchtings joined in their numbers. A new church building was opened in 1886 in Vernor near Fernvale and Friedrich was there to deliver an address. By 1902, Friedrich had been both choir-leader and preacher at Vernor for 17 years. Singing was in both German and English and sometimes, especially at a celebration held in their honour, Friedrich and Wilhelmine sang as a duet.

    The Vernor Chapel

    The Pineapple Farm at Vernor

    At the 75th anniversary of the Fernvale State School, Frederick was remembered as being the very first school committee's secretary. That would have been in 1874, only four years after he was married.

    Early in 1905, the year before Wilhelmine passed away, she had saved her son's house from being burnt down late one night. While William and Annie were away in Ipswich, a curtain had caught onto a burning candle and was set alight. Wilhelmine was the first on the scene and managed to throw the blazing curtains out the window. Only the window frame and walls were charred but the worst had been averted.

    Johann Hinrich Friedrich Süchting (1838–1917) and Wilhelmine Riek (1852–1906)


    » Friedrich Suchting (1838–1917)
       married Wilhelmine Riek (1852–1906) in Ipswich, 27.05.1870
       and they had the following children:

    Wilhelm Suchting 10.06.1871 –
    *Vernor
    16.01.1926
    †unknown
    m. Anna Adermann in Brisbane, 20.12.1889
    Anna Suchting 10.02.1873 –
    *Fernvale
    04.11.1924
    †Esk
    m. Rudolph Pieper in Qld, 13.03.1895
    Frederick Suchting 18.07.1874 –
    *Vernor
    03.06.1962
    †Qld
    m. Bertha Amelia Auguste Profke in Qld, 04.01.1902
    John Suchting 14.10.1875 –
    *unknown
    25.10.1875
    †unknown
    (11 days old)
    John Suchting 01.02.1877 –
    *unknown
    13.11.1954
    †unknown
    m. Mathilda Dennien in unknown, 04.03.1899
    Otto Suchting 05.04.1879 –
    *unknown
    unknown
    †unknown
    marriage status unknown
    Philip Suchting 27.03.1881 –
    *unknown
    18.07.1927
    †Auckland NZ
    m. Eleanor Margaret Dalliston Nash in New Zealand, 1909
    Martha Suchting 01.10.1882 –
    *unknown
    unknown
    †unknown
    m. August Friedrich Wilhelm Dennien in Qld, 26.04.1904
    Alvina Suchting 14.09.1884 –
    *Qld
    01.12.1893
    †unknown
    (9 years old)
    Adolph Suchting 19.05.1886 –
    *Qld
    05.11.1931
    †Murgon
    m. Annie Marie Bulow in Qld, 21.12.1910
    Alfred Suchting 17.08.1889 –
    *unknown
    14.05.1947
    †unknown
    m. Elizabeth Hill Houston Singleton in Qld, 07.09.1916
    m. Hilda May (Short) Ritchings in Qld, 10.07.1941

    Some of the children of Friedrich and Wilhelmine:

    William "Bill" Suchting
    m. Annie Adermann

    Anna "Annie" Suchting
    m. Rudolph Pieper

    John Suchting
    m. Mathilda Dennien

    Phillip Suchting
    m. Eleanor Nash

    Martha Suchting
    m. August Dennien

    Adolph Suchting
    m. Annie Bulow




    The Next Generation
    Almost all of the children are known to have started their own families. Otto seems to have gone his own way, working at one time as a warden in the prison service and a few years later as a sawyer. Philip also was hard to track but he did live and get married in New Zealand and eventually died over there as well. What follows is a brief account of the children, starting with the eldest.

    » William Suchting and Annie Adermann


    William managed to be in the news quite a bit. In his late twenties, at a grand concert and ball under the auspices of the Rose of Fernvale Lodge of the Grand United Order of Oddfellows, he not only sang but also played violin.

    On the Vernor quoits team, William, together with his brothers Philip, and John who was also the team skipper, managed to beat the opposing team from Lowood. The Pieper brothers, Rudolph and Adolph, were also on the team. In the return match some weeks later, the Vernor team repeated their victory.

    William Suchting (in the middle with large moustache)
    and the staff of The Crown Engineering Works, Brisbane



    With his son Doug, William laid the foundation for the Crown Engineering Works where he remained working until his death in 1926. The thriving business grew and moved from the Brisbane CBD to over the river in South Brisbane. In the late 1940's it was taken over by Doug's sons John and Bill. Ever since the late 1970's John's sons Ray and Ian have been running the business.

    In 1911 William was in the news again for having invented a portable cane trash cutter. In 1922, he delivered sermons upon the request of the Toowoomba Church of Christ community. As president and general scecretary for the Associated Churches of Christ he was on many committees, and was for 40 years considered to be a highly regarded and esteemed member. The news also took great interest in his sudden death upon a tram one Saturday morning when he was travelling to his city workplace from his home in Coorparoo.
    » Wilhelm Suchting (1871–1926)
       married Anna Adermann (1867–1938) in Brisbane, 20.12.1889
       and they had the following children:

    Hilda Anna Mildred Suchting 08.03.1891 –
    *Qld
    14.05.1891
    †Qld
    (2 months old)
    Sydney Pearce Suchting 20.03.1893 –
    *unknown
    21.08.1960
    †Qld
    m. Madeleine Mary Cunningham in Qld, 23.03.1918
    Douglas William Suchting 14.08.1895 –
    *unknown
    13.08.1972
    †Qld
    m. Barbara Eileen Bowler in Brisbane, 22.09.1923
    Ernest Percival Suchting 20.10.1896 –
    *Fernvale
    01.08.1978
    †Newcastle
    m. Mary McIndoe in Qld, 26.10.1927
    Alice Regina Suchting 07.04.1898 –
    *Qld
    13.07.1989
    †Qld
    m. James Williamson in Qld, 14.12.1929
    William Frederick Suchting 02.05.1900 –
    *unknown
    27.02.1952
    †Qld
    m. Marjorie Greenup Lamb in Qld, 15.12.1923

    Some children of William and Annie:

    Annie and William's son Sydney Pearce (pictured third from left) was a member of the Cooee Quartette who won the male quartette competition at the Windsor Eistedsfod in 1927.

    Another of Annie and William's sons, Ernest Percival, who became a photographer.



    » Anna Suchting and Rudolph Pieper


    read The Pieper Story » Rudolph and Anna are our great-grandparents. Their daughter Alma and her husband Ben Schneider are our grandparents. The full story of the Pieper families is told elsewhwere.
    » Rudolph Pieper (1875–1945)
       married Anna Suchting (1873–1924) in Qld, 13.03.1895
       and they had the following children:

    Adelaide Alvena Pieper 25.11.1895 –
    *Lowood
    03.07.1970
    †Brisbane
    m. William Pfeffer in Ipswich, As, 04.09.1915
    Eva Bernice Pieper 06.08.1898 –
    *Fernvale
    22.05.1991
    †Caloundra
    m. Percy Edgar Muckert in Qld, 1914
    Alma Dorothy Pieper 09.10.1901 –
    *Vernor
    06.12.1984
    †Ipswich
    m. Benjamin Walter Schneider in Ipswich, 01.09.1924
    Alexander Rudolph Pieper 04.09.1903 –
    *Qld
    30.03.1981
    †Kippa Ring
    m. Alma Ethel Boettcher in Marburg, 01.02.1928
    Mildred Anna Pieper 05.09.1906 –
    *Ipswich
    27.10.1948
    †Townsville
    m. Ernest Allan MacDonald in Qld, 14.04.1928
    m. George Morten McClelland in Qld, 30.08.1941

    Rudolph and Anna
    From left: Adelaide, Eva, Millie, Alma, Alec


    » Friedrich Suchting and Bertha Profke


    Because Frederick and his father both had the same name it is difficult to identify which person is the actual subject of a news item mentioning the name. Sometimes senior or junior was placed after the name making it clear but that didn't always happen. Otherwise, it seems that Frederick (or Friedrich) was unlike William and John and rarely in the limelight.

    Frederick was hired by the railways on December 4, 1912, with his brother Adolph having already been working there since 23rd August, 1909. At the time of the passing of Frederick's wife Bertha, they had been residing in Red Hill in Brisbane. His brother William and his family had also been living in Red Hill at the time.
    » Frederick Suchting (1874–1962)
       married Bertha Amelia Auguste Profke (1879–1938) in Qld, 04.01.1902
       and they had the following children:

    Victor Fredrick Suchting 11.08.1902 –
    *Qld
    01.06.1984
    †Pine Mountain
    m. Ellen Mary Smith in Ipswich, 1955
    Mabel Frances Suchting 31.05.1904 –
    *Qld
    16.07.1946
    †Qld
    m. Norman Alexander Peters in Qld, 21.01.1928
    Hilda Bertha Suchting 05.05.1910 –
    *Qld
    04.12.1927
    †Qld
    (17 years old) unmarried
    Gladys Pearl Suchting 04.06.1912 –
    *Qld
    27.08.1950
    †Qld
    m. Henry Thomas Stevens in Qld, 20.08.1932
    Edith May Suchting 21.03.1914 –
    *Qld
    03.01.1955
    †Qld
    m. Arthur James Barbour in Brisbane, 20.03.1937


    » John Suchting and Mathilda Dennien


    In November 1912, there was a surprise party held at Mr. John Suchting's home at Vernor with 50 guests singing "for they are jolly good fellows", playing games and generally having a good time. The Piepers, Muckerts, Bulows and many more could be counted amongst the visitors.

    Soon after, the family moved to Murgon, to Boat Mountain to be precise. There, in January 1924, John Suchting struck water on his property for the second time. For farmers of course, that's almost as good as striking oil. He reported that there was enough water for more stock than the property could carry.

    On Easter Monday 1924 the Redgate Sports Club held a race day in Mr. C. Goschnick's paddock at Redgate near Murgon. John's wife won the Ladies' Nail Driving Contest. A couple of months later, John and Mathilda attended the Brisbane Exhibition and later visited their son Arthur working at the Beenleigh Poilce Station. They then met up with John's sister Martha and her husband August who had been touring by car, visiting Brisbane, Kalbar and the Fassifern District.

    A few months later again, John, Mathilda, Martha and August were hosts to John and Martha's brother William and his wife Anna who were holidaying in Murgon from their home in Brisbane. In 1925 at the fifth annual exhibition of the Murgon Pastoral, Agricultural and Horticultural Society, John won 1st place for his Cocker Spaniel bitch, and his son William had the all-round champion bitch.
    » John Suchting (1877–1954)
       married Mathilda Dennien (1879–1937) in Qld, 1899
       and they had the following children:

    William Arthur Suchting 04.02.1900 –
    *Qld
    27.12.1957
    †Qld
    m. Dorothy May Waller in Qld, 06.03.1923
    Alvena Evelyn Martha Suchting 07.03.1904 –
    *Brisbane
    18.12.1992
    †Monto
    m. Frederick aka Fritz Goschnick in Murgon, 04.09.1923
    Lillian Mildred Suchting 10.09.1909 –
    *Qld
    05.04.1984
    †Qld
    m. Thomas Henry Lawless in Qld, 21.08.1937
    George Alexander Suchting 01.02.1912 –
    *Fernvale
    17.05.1989
    †Qld
    m. Ailnea Augustine Kenneally in Qld, 25.03.1933
    Doris Gladys Suchting 23.03.1914 –
    *Qld
    26.05.1990
    †Qld
    m. Frederick Miles Burley in Qld, 25.07.1940

    John and Matilda and their children

    Fritz Goschnick and Alvena Suchting, 1923



    » Otto Suchting and His Wife


    The first mention of Otto was when he was a groomsman at his sister Martha's wedding in 1904. That same year he was accepted into the Prison Service as a Warder, on probation. On the 11th of June, 1908 there was an announcment in the Queensland Goverment Gazette that His Excellency the Governor was pleased to direct that Warder Otto Suchting be dismissed from the Prison Service.

    On Monday, February 9th 1914, there was a report in the Telegraph that "Otto Suchting, a sawyer of Narangba north coast line, severely lacerated the fingers of his right hand on Saturday morning. They were caught in a circular saw. He was brought to Brisbane by train and taken to the General Hospital".

    Much later, in 1933, a 55 year old married man, named Frank Suchting, who was the foreman of a railway bridge repair gang near Strathpine, fell from the bridge and was (also) conveyed to the General Hospital. There is no record of any Frank Suchting being born, marrying or dying, so it is very likely that Otto's full name was Otto Franz Suchting and later in life went by the name of Frank.

    » Philip Suchting and Eleanor Margaret Dalliston Nash


    Phillip and Eleanor on their wedding day

    Philip was listed in the Auckland West Electoral Roll for 1905 as living at Wallace Street and working as a conductor. In August that same year he was involved in an accident while at work. The Auckland Times reported:

    As the new locally-built tram-car was approaching the Herne Bay terminus last Friday evening Conductor Suchting received a violent blow on the back of the head from one of the carrying poles, rendering him temporarily unconscious. It appears he was standing on the footboard preparatory to fastening the gates and while doing so incautiously leant too far out. He was taken into a neighbouring chemist shop where he recovered consciousness and was afterwards taken to his home in College Hill. It will probably be a week or ten days before he is fit for service again.

    In 1909, still in Auckland, he married Eleanor Nash and in 1911 the couple were living at 104 Richmond Road, Grey Lynn, a part of Auckland. At that time Philip was working as a "motorman". By 1914 they apparently had moved next door to 102 Richmond Road.

    When Philip passed away on July 18, 1927 he was remembered by his "brothers" of the Grey Lynn Lodge O. UOAD, who were invited to his funeral, as well as by his employer for over twenty years of service as a motorman, "standing as one the oldest hands on the trams". A year later a number of remembrances were inserted into the Auckland Times by his wife and her parents, who referred to him as "our dear son-in-law" and another by his niece, Thelma Short, to "dear uncle Phil".

    Around about that time, on 21 Aug 1928, Thelma Isobel, third daughter of the late Mr. and Mrs. W. Short, was married to Theo Wilson of Hillside Crescent, Mount Eden. The wedding supper with a large number of guests was held at the home of the bride's cousin, Mrs Eleanor Suchting, Richmond Road.

    By 1978, seemingly the only Suchtings listed in New Zealand were Alan and Lilian May residing in Glen Eden in Auckland, a few kilometers from where Philip and Eleanor had been living.



    Martha and August with their first four children c.1921

    » Martha Suchting and August Dennien


    Martha and August were married in 1904 at the bride's parent's residence at Vernor. The bridesmaids were Miss Amelia Cronau who had made the bride's silk lustre dress and Miss Helena Adermann.

    The groomsmen were August's brother Albert and Martha's brother Philip. The Suchtings, the Piepers and the Adermanns and lots more close friends and relatives were all there to join in on the celebrations.

    In 1910, a party was held in their honour as it had been assumed they would soon be leaving to live in Murgon, which they did, in 1911. Martha's brother John soon followed them to Murgon with his family.

    The Brisbane Courier in an article about Thriving Burnett Settlements reported at the end of 1930 that August had been in the area for more than 18 years. He had a very fine farm of 440 acres with 140 acres under cultivation and raised pigs and about 50 dairy cows.
    » August Friedrich Wilhelm Dennien (1881–1953)
       married Martha Suchting (1882–1951) in Qld, 26.04.1904
       and they had the following children:

    Norman Edwin Dennien 20.04.1905 –
    *Murgon
    17.07.1984
    †Gympie
    m. Elisabeth (Elsie) Martha Pokarier in Qld, 22.04.1925
    Cyril Stanley Dennien 13.05.1907 –
    *Qld
    02.06.1964
    †Qld
    m. Martha Wilhelmine Stephan in Qld, 31.12.1930
    Harold Neville Dennien 03.09.1909 –
    *Ipswich
    18.02.1951
    †Gympie
    m. Clara Ernestine Stephan in Qld, 17.06.1931
    Ronald Wilfred Dennien 29.08.1910 –
    *Qld
    22.03.1911
    †Qld
    (7 months old)
    Eileen Mabel Dennien 07.06.1912 –
    *Qld
    16.09.1986
    †Qld
    m. George James Guppy in Qld, 16.03.1935
    Gordon Edgar Dennien 08.09.1922 –
    *Murgon
    25.01.1985
    †Hervey Bay
    m. Beryl Esmie Hay in Qld, 07.10.1944


    » Adolph Suchting and Annie Bulow

    » Adolph Suchting (1886–1931)
       married Annie Marie Bulow (1893–1962) in Qld, 21.12.1910
       and they had the following children:

    Rene May Suchting 28.01.1912 –
    *Qld
    02.11.1987
    †Qld
    m. Archie Vieritz in Caboolture, 25.10.1930
    Murlen (Merle) Miles Suchting 17.10.1916 –
    *Qld
    09.07.2000
    †Goomeri
    m. John Clifford Brown in unknown, 15.10.1939
    Heather Doreen Suchting 25.07.1929 –
    *Maryborough
    14.12.2010
    †Caloundra
    m. Ronald William Young in unknown place, unknown date

    Annie and Adolph

    Murlen Miles, the daughter of Annie and Adolph, with her husband Jack Brown

    Rene May Vieritz, the daughter of Annie and Adolph

    Irene Vieritz, the daughter of Rene May and Archie




    » Alfred Suchting
        and Elizabeth Hill Houston Singleton
        and Hilda May Short


    Alfred seemed to have had a spot of bother with domestic duties and responsibilities. One day he upped and left home, preferring to live in a tent. The newspapers were quickly on the case and followed the proceedings from the moment his wife Elizabeth had filed her complaints. By the time of the hearing for the divorce, Alfred had moved in with his 17 year old daughter Myrtle and her husband John. Myrtle had been married since the year before, when she was 16.

    When asked by his wife Elizabeth if he intended to return, she was told that he wouldn't because he wouldn't be happy. In the courtroom, when asked if the woman being pointed out was his wife he said "she's supposed to be". When Elizabeth was asked if her husband was a drinker and did he work, she told the court he was a heavy drinker and he would work one week and take a month off. The decree nisi to dissolve the marriage was declared after a total of nine minutes and noted as the fastest in recent history.

    To support herself Elizabeth had been working a time share dairy farm, which had been doing well. She remarried a year or so later.

    In 1941, Alfred also remarried, to Hilda May (nee Short) Ritchings, the widow of George Ernest Albert Ritchings who had passed away in 1934, aged 36.
    » Alfred Suchting (1889–1947)
       married Elizabeth Hill Houston Singleton (1897–1983) in Gympie, 07.09.1916
       and they had the following children:

    Myrtle Cora Suchting 28.09.1916 –
    *Qld
    20.10.2004
    †Qld
    m. John Rail in Qld, 20.07.1933
    Mervyn Charles Suchting 12.07.1918 –
    *Qld
    18.11.1972
    †Qld
    m. Rose May Noble in Qld, 28.01.1939
    Descima Daphne Lavina Suchting 09.02.1922 –
    *Qld
    unknown
    †unknown
    m. Robert Roy McDonald in Qld, 08.02.1941

    » Alfred Suchting (1889–1947)
       married Hilda May (Short) Ritchings (1899-1973) in Qld, 10.07.1941
       (and they had no children together)

    Alfred's first wife,
    Elizabeth Hill Houston (Singleton)

    Alfred's second wife,
    Hilda (Short) Richtings

    Hilda Short and Alvina Suchting (who was the daughter of Alfred's brother John. Alvina married Fritz Goschnick)