Lobegeiger

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The Lobegeiger Family

Variously written as Lobegeiger, Lobegeyer, Lobegeiyer, Lobegeier, Lobegeir, Lobegier, Lobegeien, Lobegieger, Lobegeger, Lobegger, Lobeger, Lobegegor, Lubegegor, Lobegeaer, Laubegeyer, Laubejeyer, Lobejeger, Lobejaeyer, Lobejaeger, Lobejäger, Lobingier, Lotbingier, Laibinger, Labengyger, Lambengyger, Laubengeiger, Layhengyger, de Lotbiniere, de Lotbiniere, Lobiniere

Firstly a note about the spelling and pronunciation of the name: this is very likely an old name and has been pronounced in many different ways through the ages. The locality also is renowned for what is called "Plattdeutsch" (literally "Flat German") which until recently was regarded as a German dialect but is now recognised as a distinct language. One of the peculiarities of Platt is the pronunciation of the vowels and consonants. For instance, the letter 'g' is pronounced as a 'y', thus transforming a word like 'girl' into 'yirl'. Likewise, "Lobegeiger" would be pronounced "Lobeyeger" in some parts and as "Lobegeyer" in others. Since this is Platt, the writing of names is open to a transcription produced by the writer, so many variations prevail. Of course handwriting also complicates the matter.

As a matter of interest, the family records for the Pieper/Piper family have their marriage partners and children always written as "Lobejäger" which is still maintained in Germany as a last name. The "Jäger" part is a word meaning "hunter" in English. All other variations of the name have migrated to Australia with their respective name-holders.

Map of the Uckermark in Brandenburg, Prussia.

The green area is a map of modern Germany with the orange dot indicating the location of the Uckermark.

The red ellipses show the last locations of many branches of the family. Clockwise: Templin, Klosterwalde, Herrenstein & Gerswalde, Fergitz, Strehlow, Seehausen, Charlottenhof, Stegelitz, Wilmersdorf, Peetzig, Siebershof, Alt-Temmen, Götschendorf, Ringenwalde.
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From Meyers Gazetteer - Charlottenhof (53)
Charlottenhof, Templin, Potsdam, Brandenburg, Preussen
Charlottenhof is a Vorwerk (Residence or Farm)
Charlottenhof is dependent on Stegelitz

From 'Gutsbesitz in Brandenburg (vor 1945)'
Pfingstberg, bei Templin. Rittergut mit Vorwerk Charlottenhof, 286,7 ha. 1929 Georg von Arnim-Suckow. Pächter: Kasten.

The two Lobegeiger, or Lobegeyer, families which are tied into ours both hailed from the Templin District of Brandenburg.

The first of the families to migrate was that of Friedrich Wilhelm August Lobegeiger, his wife Caroline Wilhelmine Louise Witte and their five children. They arrived on the Cesar Godeffroy on 31 January 1861. The second eldest son, also called Friedrich Wilhelm August Lobegeiger, had a daughter named Anna who married our great-grandfather Henry Schneider. The youngest son August Carl Hermann ending up marrying Frederike Christina Schneider, the seven-year-older half-sister of our great-grandfather Henry Schneider.

The other family arrived on the Susanne Godeffroy on 22 January 1864. This family was made up of Friedrich Gottlieb Ferdinand Lobegeiger, known as Gottlieb, and his wife Wilhelmina Fredericka Topp and their four children. After barely three years in the colony, Gottlieb passed away in 1867 and Wilhelmine remarried in 1869. In 1870 she became the mother of our great-grandfather Henry Schneider.

Götschendorf on the map

The Vorwerk Götschendorf and Vorwerk Stegelitz-Charlottenhof

The Lobegeyer families came from Götschendorf and Charlottenhof. Each of these places was known as a Vorwerk, a place in the possession of a noble family, in this case by the family 'von Arnim'.

The German word 'Vorwerk' has no direct correspondence in the English language or administrative systems. The closest would be a (Monastic) 'Grange' which was, in medieval times, an outlying farm held by a monastery. It was part of what was known as the manorial system and is now recognised as part of feudalism.

When monasteries gradually lost their lands and power, the system continued to run, but by land owning noble families, the feudal lords. To make these estates immensely profitable, formerly free peasants were forced into becoming serfs and by law, effectively prevented from owning land or changing masters.

There were only two components to this system. The first and foremost was the landowner who had all the rights. The second was his property, including all his workers, who were required to give their labour as payment for their sheer existence, simply for being part of that property, like a farm animal.

This sort of exploitation and enforced dependency was placed upon workers on the lands of the Vorwerk. In essence, it was a legally bound and enforced subjugation of farm working families which was also inherited. That meant that children who were born into it were bound by law, to the farm, as part of the property of the farm-holder, the lord (Gutsherr).

This new type of feudalism was a great improvement for those who benefited. Instead of having tenants on the land who then had to pay rent, taxes and duties to the landlord, the worker-families were turned into objects of ownership who gained nothing from their labours. The products of all their efforts went straight to the landlord, for his gain alone. Of course this was open to the cutting costs of keeping these workers alive. Overcrowded accommodation in very poor conditions, malnourishment, sickness and death, especially of children, were all running rampant.

From the Official Records of the Brandenburg Archive
1863 Approval for Emigration to Australia for the family of
Friedrich Gottlieb Ferdinand Lobegeyer

From the Official Records of the Brandenburg Archive
1861 Approval for Emigration to Australia for the family of
Friedrich Wilhelm August Lobegeyer

Caroline Witte

» August Lobegeyer (1820–1893)
and Caroline Wilhelmine Louise Witte (1818–1889)

Friedrich Wilhelm August Lobegeiger (known as August),
son of Johann Friedrich Wilhelm Lobegeyer, and Caroline Lobegeyer, nee Mallan.

» Friedrich Wilhelm August Lobegeiger (known as August) (1820–1893)
married Caroline Wilhelmine Louise Witte (1818–1889) in Preussen, Germany, 07.11.1841

and they had the following children:

Caroline Wilhelmine Auguste Lobegeiger	14.02.1845 – *Brandenburg	05.09.1936 †Queensland	m. Jacob Korner in Taroom, 07.08.1862
Wilhelm Friedrich August Lobegeiger	15.11.1846 – *Alt Temmen	10.06.1917 †Wondai	m. Caroline Friederike Dieckmann in Ipswich, 11.07.1875
Emilie Johanne Wilhelmine Lobegeiger	17.10.1849 – *Charlottenhof	09.03.1878 †Kalbar	m. William or Wilhelm Peters in Queensland, 08.02.1869
Frederick William August Lobegeiger	11.07.1851 – *Charlottenhof	28.08.1913 †Coleyville	m. Ernestine Friederika Amelia Wolter in Ipswich, 06.08.1870
Johanna Ernestine Caroline Lobegeiger	22.02.1854 – *Germany	28.01.1900 †Kalbar	m. Carl Friedrich Wilhelm Christian Krueger in Normanby Reserve, 31.12.1872
Ferdinand Wilhelm Lobegeiger	25.06.1856 – *Templin	19.03.1926 †Toowoomba	m. Marie Charlotte Caroline Goethke in Queensland, 14.07.1877
August Carl Hermann Lobegeier	17.07.1859 – *Templin	24.12.1936 †Wondai	m. Frederike Christina Schneider in Harrisville, 23.02.1882

Some of the children of Friedrich Wilhelm August Lobegeier and Caroline Wilhelmine Louise Witte:

Caroline Auguste
and Jacob Korner

Wilhelm Friedrich August

Frederick Wilhelm August
(Fred)

Ferdinand Wilhelm

August Carl Hermann
(Carl)

» Wilhelm Friedrich August Lobegeiger (1846–1917)
and Caroline Friederike Dieckmann (1851–1900)

Wilhelm Friedrich August Lobegeiger was the son of Friedrich Wilhelm August Lobegeiger and his wife Caroline Lobegeyer, nee Witte.

» Wilhelm Friedrich August Lobegeiger (1846–1917)
married Caroline Friederike Dieckmann (1851–1900) in Ipswich, 11.07.1875

and they had the following children:

William Charles Lobegeier	11.04.1876 – *Queensland	09.02.1963 †Brisbane	m. Annie Crocombe in Queensland, 02.04.1902
Annie Ellen Charlotte Lobegeier	19.06.1877 – *Murgon	17.12.1954 †Brisbane	m. William John Borchert in Queensland, 21.02.1900
Minnie Caroline Lobegeier	08.09.1879 – *Queensland	17.04.1958 †Queensland	m. Wilhelm August Kruger in Queensland, 02.05.1900 m. Henrich Wilhelm Berlin in Queensland, 04.03.1939
John Lobegeier	31.01.1881 – *Rosewood	19.06.1964 †Monto	m. Agnes Maria Crocombe in Queensland, 30.04.1906

Frederick Wilhelm August
(Fred)

Ernestine Wolter
(Fred's wife)

» Frederick William August Lobegeiger (1851–1913)
and Ernestine Friederika Amelia Wolter (1852–1923)

Frederick William August Lobegeiger was the son of Friedrich Wilhelm August Lobegeiger and his wife Caroline Lobegeyer, nee Witte.

» Frederick William August Lobegeiger (1851–1913)
married Ernestine Friederika Amelia Wolter (1852–1923) in Ipswich, 06.08.1870

and they had the following children:

Anna (Annie) Lobegeiger	22.10.1871 – *Normanby	07.05.1919 †Teviotville	m. John Heinrich Schneider in Coleyville, 09.02.1898
Maria Lobegeiger	24.11.1873 – *Qld	16.10.1960 †Qld	unmarried
Frederick William Lobegeiger	10.04.1876 – *Qld	17.04.1959 †Boonah	m. Wilhelmine Dickfos in Qld, 29.03.1906
Ellen Bertha Lobegeiger	24.03.1878 – *Qld	24.08.1878 †Qld	unmarried
Charles Hermann Lobegeiger	06.07.1879 – *Qld	03.06.1924 †Qld	m. Ellen Emma Schmidt in Qld, 21.05.1901
Christine Emilie (Amelia) Lobegeiger	18.05.1881 – *Qld	05.10.1952 †Qld	unmarried
Auguste Sarah Lobegeiger	27.09.1882 – *Qld	28.04.1942 †Qld	m. Henry William Wieland in Qld, 02.11.1904
Alfred Benjamin Lobegeier	05.03.1885 – *Qld	20.11.1945 †Qld	m. Catherine Mary Slattery in Qld, 10.11.1920
Arnold Arthur Lobegeiger	11.06.1887 – *Qld	21.12.1946 †Qld	m. Wilhelmine Christine Dickfos in Qld, 28.06.1911
Emma Margaret Lobegeier	26.08.1889 – *Qld	31.07.1970 †Qld	m. John Ludwig Niebling in Qld, 05.01.1910
Helena Louisa Lobegeiger	14.04.1892 – *Qld	20.01.1964 †Qld	m. Johann Frederich Schmidt in Qld, 09.09.1914
Joseph Hugo Lobegeiger	28.10.1894 – *Qld	01.03.1974 †Rosevale	m. Amelia Bertha or Amelia Annie Zahnow in Rosevale, 25.10.1916
Esther Berther Lobegeiger	06.03.1896 – *Qld	12.08.1923 †Qld	m. John Hinricksen in Qld, 04.08.1916

August Carl Hermann
(Carl)

Friederike Christine Schneider (Carl's wife)

» August Carl Hermann Lobegeier (1859–1936)
Frederike Christina Schneider (1863–1938)

August Carl Hermann Lobegeier was the son of Friedrich Wilhelm August Lobegeiger and his wife Caroline Lobegeyer, nee Witte.

» August Carl Hermann Lobegeier (1859–1936)
married Frederike Christina Schneider (1863–1938) in Harrisville, 23.02.1882

and they had the following children:

Julius Lobegeier	07.12.1882 – *Pittsworth	23.08.1952 †Qld	m. Maria Dorothea Albertine Kratzmann in Pittsworth, 17.01.1906
Adlor Lobegeier	17.08.1884 – *Pittsworth	27.10.1892 †Ipswich	(8 years old)
Daniel Lobegeier	23.06.1886 – *Qld	06.09.1949 †Brisbane	m. Bertha Wilhelmine Kratzmann in Kings Creek, 16.06.1909
Adina Lobegeier	08.06.1888 – *Boonah	30.01.1953 †Murgon	m. Friedrich Wilhelm Kratzmann in Qld, 04.02.1910
Rosa Lobegeier	28.02.1890 – *Boonah	10.09.1943 †Charleville.	m. Frederick Wilhelm George Kratzmann in Pittsworth, 10.03.1909
Rieka (Reca) Lobegeier	06.09.1891 – *Bundaberg	08.01.1963 †Qld	m. Harry Bubb in Qld, 28.07.1915
Gottlieb (George) Lobegeier	01.01.1893 – *Boonah	22.05.1977 †Murgon	m. Emmy Wilhelmine Marie Rohde in Qld, 04.06.1919
Lydia Lobegeier	23.03.1894 – *Qld	26.04.1894 †Qld	(one month old)
August Lobegeier	06.07.1895 – *Qld	30.08.1895 †Qld	(one month old)
Louisa Lobegeier	07.07.1896 – *Pittsworth	19.07.1978 †Kingaroy	m. Thomas Euler in Qld, 28.07.1915
Clara Lobegeier	18.11.1897 – *Qld	26.02.1934 †Bundaberg	m. John Alfred Fagg in Bundaberg, 08.12.1920
Helen (Ellen) Lobegeier	05.07.1900 – *Clifton	??.08.1976 †unknown	m. Harold Henry James Bolden in Bingera in Qld, 03.05.1922
Christina Lobegeier	30.09.1902 – *Kings Creek	20.08.1991 †Hervey Bay	m. Peter William Christian Petersen in Qld, 03.05.1922
Albert Lobegeiger	17.12.1905 – *Pittsworth	23.02.1979 †Bundaberg	m. Gladys Herterick in Qld, 08.04.1930

Some of the children and grandchildren of August Carl Hermann Lobegeier and Friderike Christina Schneider, on their wedding day:

Adina Lobegeier and
Frederik Kratzman

Albert Lobegeier and
Gladys Herterick

Christina Lobegeier and
William Petersen

Daniel Lobegeier and
Bertha Kratzman

Louisa Lobegeier and
Thomas Euler

Helen Lobegeier and
Harold Bolden

Rosa Lobegeier and
Frederik Kratzman

Children of Rosa Lobegeier and Frederik Kratzman

The Marriage of Gottlieb Lobegeyer and Wilhelmine Topp

» Gottlieb Lobegeyer (1826–1867)
and Wilhelmine Topp (1829–1915)

Friedrich Gottlieb Ferdinand Lobegeiger (known as Gottlieb) was the son of Johann Friedrich Lobegeyer, Church Warden and School Teacher in Goetschendorf, and his wife Friederike Lobegeyer, nee Ihrke.

ORIGINAL

Auszug aus dem Trauregister der Evangelischen Kirchengemeinde
Wilmersdorf, Jahrgang 1850, Seite, Nr

Im Namen Gottes, des Vaters, des Sohnes und des Heiligen Gesistes
wurden kirchlich getraut

Name, Vornamen, Beruf, Wohnort

des Bräutigams Gottlieb Lobegeyer
Maurergesell in Goetschendorf,
25 Jahre alt.

Tag und Ort des standesamtlichen
Eheschliessung
Tag der kirchlichen Trauung 6.10.1850

Eltern des Bräutigams Joh. Friedr, Lobe-
geyer, Küster u. Schullehrer zu
Goetschendorf, und Friederike
Lobegeyer geb. Ihrke

der Braut Wilh. Friederike Topp
aus Alt-Temmen, 24 Jahre alt.
(Das Alter stimmt nicht, sie war
21 Jahre alt)

6.10.1850 vermutlich in
Götschendorf

Vater der Braut Carl Friedr. Topp.
Statthalter in Alt-Temmen

Templin, den 5.10.1972
Ort und Datum

TRANSLATION

Extract from the Marriage Registry of the Protestant Church
Wilmersdorf, In the Year 1850, Page, Nr

In the name of God, the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost
were married in the church

Last Name, First names, Occupation, Residence

Of Groom: Gottlieb Lobegeyer
Mason in Goetschendorf,
25 years old.

Date and place of civil
registration
Date of church marriage 6.10.1850

Parents of Groom: Joh.Friedr,Lobe-
geyer, Church Warden and School Teacher in Goetschendorf, and Friederike Lobegeyer, born Ihrke

Of Bride: Wilh. Friederike Topp
from Alt-Temmen, 24 years old.
(The age is incorrect, she was
21 years old)

6.10.1850 probably in
Götschendorf

Father of Bride: Carl Friedr. Topp.
Governor/Viceroy/Proconsul in Alt-Temmen

Templin, 5.10.1972
Place and Date

» Friedrich Gottlieb Ferdinand Lobegeiger (known as Gottlieb) (1826–1867)
married Wilhelmina Fredericka Topp (1829–1915) in Götschendorf, Templin, Brandenburg, 06.10.1850

and they had the following children:

Emilie Wilhelmine Caroline Lobegeiger	09.12.1850 – *Götschendorf	11.12.1932 †Boonah	m. Herman Carl Franz Huth in Boonah, 05.07.1869
unnamed female Lobegeiger	28.01.1854 – *Neu Temmin	28.01.1854 †Neu Temmin	stillborn, died before christening or naming
Wilhelmine Lobegeiger	09.03.1855 – *Stegelitz	24.10.1877 †Warwick	unmarried
Auguste Bertha Lobegeier	12.11.1859 – *Stegelitz	06.09.1924 †Biggenden	m. Samuel Stewart in Radford, Qld, 22.07.1880
Marie Emilie Lobegeiger	01.03.1864 – *Templin	25.04.1948 †Beaudesert	m. William Slatter in Mt Radford, 21.09.1881 m. Samuel Wells in Fassifern, 11.07.1894
Johannes Lobegeier	24.07.1865 – *Brisbane	03.06.1955 †Beaudesert	m. Emilie Albertine Louise Kruger in Queensland, 31.01.1889

Some of the children of Friedrich Gottlieb Ferdinand Lobegeiger and Wilhelmina Fredericka Topp:

c1897 Auguste Bertha with her husband Samuel Stewart and their first six children. L-R at back, Annie (14) and Minna (16), at front, Daisy (5), William (1), Benjamin (3), Samuel (12).

Marie Emile

All Together Now

Lobegeiger

From the Uckermark, Prussia

The Lobegeiger Family

The Vorwerk Götschendorf and Vorwerk Stegelitz-Charlottenhof

» August Lobegeyer (1820–1893)
and Caroline Wilhelmine Louise Witte (1818–1889)

» Wilhelm Friedrich August Lobegeiger (1846–1917)
and Caroline Friederike Dieckmann (1851–1900)

» Frederick William August Lobegeiger (1851–1913)
and Ernestine Friederika Amelia Wolter (1852–1923)

» August Carl Hermann Lobegeier (1859–1936)
Frederike Christina Schneider (1863–1938)

» Gottlieb Lobegeyer (1826–1867)
and Wilhelmine Topp (1829–1915)

All Together Now

Lobegeiger

From the Uckermark, Prussia

The Lobegeiger Family

The Vorwerk Götschendorf and Vorwerk Stegelitz-Charlottenhof

» August Lobegeyer (1820–1893) and Caroline Wilhelmine Louise Witte (1818–1889)

» Wilhelm Friedrich August Lobegeiger (1846–1917) and Caroline Friederike Dieckmann (1851–1900)

» Frederick William August Lobegeiger (1851–1913) and Ernestine Friederika Amelia Wolter (1852–1923)

» August Carl Hermann Lobegeier (1859–1936) Frederike Christina Schneider (1863–1938)

» Gottlieb Lobegeyer (1826–1867) and Wilhelmine Topp (1829–1915)

» August Lobegeyer (1820–1893)
and Caroline Wilhelmine Louise Witte (1818–1889)

» Wilhelm Friedrich August Lobegeiger (1846–1917)
and Caroline Friederike Dieckmann (1851–1900)

» Frederick William August Lobegeiger (1851–1913)
and Ernestine Friederika Amelia Wolter (1852–1923)

» August Carl Hermann Lobegeier (1859–1936)
Frederike Christina Schneider (1863–1938)

» Gottlieb Lobegeyer (1826–1867)
and Wilhelmine Topp (1829–1915)